The June 10, 2026 episode of You Should Know, hosted by William Tincup and Ryan Leary of WRKdefined, features Kian Katanforoosh, CEO and founder of Workera and an adjunct lecturer at Stanford University, where he teaches neural networks and deep learning. The conversation makes a pointed argument for the moment: traditional workforce assessments have earned a trust problem, and AI-driven skills intelligence is poised to replace them. With hiring, upskilling, and AI readiness dominating boardroom agendas, Katanforoosh lays out why measurement itself, not talent alone, is becoming the competitive differentiator.

Across the hour, the hosts and guest press on several threads pulled directly from the field:

• The half-life of skills, now roughly 2 to 2.5 years, and its implications for lifelong learning.
• Learning velocity as a new workforce metric, measuring the delta in skills between two points in time.
• Bias in hiring, including SHRM's seven defined hiring biases, and whether AI is more or less biased than human raters.
• The Meta versus OpenAI talent war, skills-based pay, and the idea of a verified skills passport.

Katanforoosh reframes what measurement is for, pushing back on the screening-out mindset that shaped decades of pre-employment testing. On bias, he is blunt: "I'm fairly confident, I could say very confident, that AI is less biased than humans... If someone is racist, they're not going to wake up a day and not be racist suddenly... AI doesn't take time. If you actually know what's the problem and you go and you fix it, it will change overnight by definition." Tincup argues the word assessment itself carries too much toxic baggage and should be retired in favor of skills measurement.

The discussion goes deep on deployment. Workera typically rolls out in two phases, starting with a pyramidal AI badging framework covering understanding AI, applying AI, and building AI, including GenAI and responsible AI certifications, before layering role-specific skills for product managers, marketers, and technical staff. Katanforoosh cites World Economic Forum data projecting a net 78 million more jobs created than lost by 2030, references the Meta-OpenAI poaching wave reported by Klover.ai, and floats universal basic income as a possible bridge as skill values fluctuate. He also describes Workera's product, The Sage, an AI mentor built on multimodal assessment that can speak, ask candidates to code, whiteboard, or problem-solve.

You Should Know, from WRKdefined, is a podcast delving into pivotal leadership challenges in the workplace. Hosts William Tincup and Ryan Leary unpack the evolving world of work with candid, sharply reported conversations aimed at HR leaders, executives, and anyone invested in how organizations hire, develop, and retain talent. The episode with Kian Katanforoosh is available now wherever podcasts are heard.

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